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'Israel is aiding terror group to kill Iran's scientists'

Seeded on Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST
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world-news, iran, israel, middle-east, mossad
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US officials say the assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists have been carried out by an Iranian opposition group with logistical and financial support from the Mossad, NBC News reported Thursday.
The report was based on a testimony by one of Iranian Ayotollah Ali Khamenei's senior advisers who detailed the intimate relationship between Israel and the opposition group MEK, which "two senior US officials" confirmed as accurate.

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aRTieA

Despite Iran implicating the CIA in the most recent assassination of nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, 32, near Tehran University, the officials denied any US involvement in the attack.

Really!

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:42 PM EST
aRTieA

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/08/10354553-israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news

For its part, the MEK pointed to a statement calling the allegations “absolutely false.”

Ali Safavi, a long-time representative of the MEK, underscored the denial after publication of this article,

"There has never been and there is no MEK member in Israel, period," he said. "The MEK has categorically denied any involvement. The idea that Israel is training MEK members on its soil borders on perversity. It is absolutely and completely false."

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST
ed-1874584

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  • 3 votes
#3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 3:50 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Does that justify funding, training and working with Terror groups? Isn't Iran doing the same thing when aiding Hamas and Hezbollah? All this shows is that Israel is exactly as 'evil' as her 'enemies'.

Not all that shocking as the IDF had evolved from the Haganah, Irgun, Lehi and other such Terror groups.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:14 PM EST
aRTieA

The group in question denies any involvement with Israel.

Do you have proof otherwise?

Or do you blindly believe anything that is adverse about Israel? (p.s., that is a rhetorical question, no reply required)

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

US officials say the assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists have been carried out by an Iranian opposition group with logistical and financial support from the Mossad

I'll believe US Officials before I believe the denials of Israel's MOSSAD and their terrorist allies.

Do you have proof otherwise?

Or do you blindly believe anything that is supportive of Israel? (p.s., that is a rhetorical question, no reply required)

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:37 PM EST
mork1from1ork

aRTieA....Hippocrates....,

Let us ASSUME, that BOTH Iran and Israel, FIGHT a WAR, using Similar Methods....,

IF we ACCEPT that, as EQUAL,

then, we should Examine The "Desired Outcome" of Iran and Israel....,

NOT THE SAME !!!!

One DESIRES the Total and Complete Annihilation of The Other;
Can we Venture to SAY, which is WHICH ??
Truthfully ?!

  • 4 votes
#3.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST
aRTieA

I'll believe US Officials

What is a US Official?

  • 4 votes
#3.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:51 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

What is a US Official?

http://dictionary.reference.com/

  • 3 votes
#3.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

...detailed the intimate relationship between Israel and the opposition group MEK, which "two senior US officials" confirmed as accurate.

One of the two senior US officials who reportedly confirmed the Iranian accusations said that all the “inclinations” in Larijani’s remarks were “correct.”

The US has long designated MEK as a terrorist organization,

Again, I'll believe US Officials before I believe the denials of Israel's MOSSAD and their terrorist allies.

  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:11 PM EST
ed-1874584

Does that justify funding, training and working with Terror groups? Isn't Iran doing the same thing when aiding Hamas and Hezbollah? All this shows is that Israel is exactly as 'evil' as her 'enemies'.

I guess it depends on your point of view. Remind me real quick, who started the fight between Iran and Israel? If I had reason to believe that someone was planning to kill me, there would be nothing that I wouldn't do to prevent it. Israel has reason to believe that Iran is trying to arm themselves with nuclear weapons and they have a history of attacking them by proxy, just as you said. It seems justified to me. Even if it is "alleged" at this point.

  • 3 votes
#3.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:32 PM EST
aRTieA

Can you name the US Officials? Or is this just an instance of "they say." They being somewhat ambiguous.

  • 4 votes
#3.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:57 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

ed I guess it depends on your point of view.

How does it depend? Is it moral to support Terror groups?

ed who started the fight between Iran and Israel?

Israel has, or have you missed the calls to attack Iran? Or is it ok to threaten others with violence?

ed Israel has reason to believe that Iran is trying to arm themselves with nuclear weapons

Really? Israel hasn't presented any evidence of Iran making nuclear weapons, nor has any nation. Is Israel's reason the same reason that suggested Iraq had Nuclear Weapons? Maybe Israel should give up her own Nuclear Weapons before claiming others are a threat!

  • 3 votes
#3.10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:49 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

Can you name the US Officials? Or is this just an instance of "they say." They being somewhat ambiguous.

Are you saying your seeded article is inaccurate? Are you saying you seeded something from Jpost that didn't verify its facts?

I guess we'll have to keep an eye on the credibility of your sources if even you don't have faith in their facts presented therein.

  • 3 votes
#3.11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:54 PM EST
aRTieA

You are trying to change the subject to suit your needs,.You cannot try to make this about me (as usual)

My question - can you name the US Officials as you appear to place credibility and believe these unknown anonymous persons or not.

So you are a firm believer of those who are referred to as "they say" as long as it fits withing your preconceived belief system.

All I did was seed the article and present some compelling viewpoints.

  • 5 votes
#3.12 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST
ed-1874584

Israel has, or have you missed the calls to attack Iran? Or is it ok to threaten others with violence?

I guess history doesn't matter. What happened first, Hamas/Hezbollah attacks or Iranian scientist being killed?

Really? Israel hasn't presented any evidence of Iran making nuclear weapons, nor has any nation. Is Israel's reason the same reason that suggested Iraq had Nuclear Weapons?

I didn't say anybody had proved it. I said they had reason to believe it.

Since Iran already uses terrorism against Israel, why should they be expected to do any less to Iran? Typical double standard.

  • 4 votes
#3.13 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

You are trying to change the subject to suit your needs

How? This is your seed. Your seed says US Officials have confirmed MOSSAD's links to the MEK, a terrorist group. Either your seed is inaccurate or you think Jpost doesn't verify its sources.

  • 3 votes
#3.14 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:37 PM EST
aRTieA

Can you name the US Officials? Or is this just an instance of "they say." They being somewhat ambiguous.

The article was picked up off the Reuters service.

Seeding an article neither confirms agreement or disagreementwith the content. (This falls under "don't kill the messenger" metaphoric phrase)

  • 3 votes
#3.15 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:45 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

Since Iran already uses terrorism against Israel

How? When? Unless proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah count? But then you'd have to admit Israel has been committing terrorism as well and thus Israel is equally as morally bankrupt as her enemies are. MEK is not the only terror group Israel has aided, their recent tensions with Turkey led Israel to contemplate aiding the PKK, a Kurdish terrorist group.

  • 3 votes
#3.16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:46 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

Your seed says US Officials have confirmed MOSSAD's links to the MEK, a terrorist group. Either your seed is inaccurate or you think Jpost doesn't verify its sources. But you should know that they were

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29185

speaking on condition of anonymity

Doesn't change the fact that US Officials have confirmed MOSSAD's links to the MEK, a terrorist group.

  • 3 votes
#3.17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:47 PM EST
ed-1874584

How? When? Unless proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah count?

You absolutely can NOT be serious with this nonsense. You are aware that the MEK isn't an Israeli group, right? Therefore, they are a proxy. EXACTLY like Hezbollah and Hamas.

I'll answer, since you will deflect. Of course you are aware the MEK isn't Israel. But that doesn't matter. Israel is wrong in your eyes for allegedly doing the same exact thing that you admit Iran does. But since Israel did it second, they started it and the Islamist get a pass. SHOCKING!!!!!

  • 4 votes
#3.18 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:54 PM EST
aRTieA

SHOCKING!!!!!

Expected!

  • 5 votes
#3.19 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:31 PM EST
ed-1874584

What is also expected is that as soon as someone points out Hippo's glaring hypocrisy, he moves on to a different thread to troll.

  • 3 votes
#3.20 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:37 PM EST
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backroads

I thought the U.S. was actively working with resistance groups. Part of our strategy.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:07 PM EST
aRTieA

What part of the story is true, what part misleading, etc.

It is just an unconfirmed report to confuse.

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:09 PM EST
mork1from1ork

Iranian Shi'a

Wanna be MO HAPPY
instead
their Enemies
MEK MOSSAD

  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:22 PM EST
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larrrs

Does anyone seriously think that the US, Israel or for that matter Iran, are going to talk candidly about ongoing operations? Of course they aren't as it would jeopardize what they have going on.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:48 PM EST
Hippocrates of Cos

Nice to see Israel supports terror groups. Glad to see US Officials can confirm this for us.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:47 PM EST
aRTieA

I appreciate you humor!

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:33 PM EST
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